Peter L. Peres wrote: >At least one PIC went on a Shuttle mission. Ditto embedded Linux afaik >(probably on Motorola but I am not sure). They probably choose >commercially hardware after they drop it off cliff. > From what little I've read there are specifications down to the exact solders approved. I imagine there are very few pieces of commercial hardware that would pass at the board level, nevermind the product level. Cosmic rays penetrate everything up there at one point of another, so the size of the features of the die in a chip and its packaging are as important as many other considerations. The stuff that goes up 'on a shuttle mission' has less strict specs than the stuff that is part of flight control. An off the shelf embedded computer, if well made, would still have problems though. Not only are they concerned about whether the device will make the trip without damaging itself or anything else, but 'little' things like outgassing are of critical importance. Not only could the chip packages give off a terrible odor (which we wouldn't notice here, but in confined spaces with recycled air could lead to nausea) but the chemicals released can damaged air handlers and other safety critical equipment. >If it works after that >they take it up. I'd be wary of a laptop. The screen could shatter or >something and hen you can't see a thing and the disks will crash hard if >the cabin pressure is lost. > Hard drives meant for high altitude applications are completely sealed with air inside, as opposed to those we use on the ground which have filtered air vents. I'm certian everything with glass or any brittle material must have some layer of protection (plastic). I would speculate that even tempered glass wouldn't be accepted as-is. There are many student projects that are taken up, and many of them have described the specifications, processes, and procedures to getting their item up. Very interesting stuff... -Adam -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.