My apologies, I just looked up the graph and you are correct; at minute currents the PIC output pins will approach 0v and 5v. Since I always drive outputs at least a few mA I was used to the sat voltage gap. :o) -Roman Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > At 02:49 PM 2/3/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Sorry, that should have been TTL or CMOS. :o) > >A PIC output set to low will go close to 0v, IF > >there is something to pull it down, but not if it > >is held by a cap etc. There is no mechanism to sink > >current to drain the cap, unless you include the > >cap leakage. Likewise at the high end the PIC can > >only source current to *around* 4.5v or so, these > >specs are clearly described in the datasheet. > > Not true, Roman. The outputs look like a low-value resistor to Vdd or Vss, > with a tiny bit of leakage from the opposing MOSFET. Of course if there > is a lot of current flowing through the Vdd or Vss pin, there may be some > offset, but we're talking tens of mV at worst. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.