> >as well, eg 4050 > think of just using a logic buffer...makes a lot of sense I think. If you do decide to go that way, the 4049/4050 like most common gate ICs can sink more current than they can source. With only one LED probably doesn't make much difference either way. Putting 3 LEDs in series on 5V without R could be marginal depending on their Vf Connect the LEDs V+ -- R --- >|-- pin. If you use the 4049 you can keep the PIC s/w logic positive. ie BSF --> PIC o/p goes high, 4049 (an inverter) o/p goes low and the LED comes on. Obviously if you use a 4050 then BCF for LED on unless you put the LED from 4050 o/p to 0V In displays such as scrolling signs where strobing / PWM is on permanently and there's no chance of static DC across the LED the current limiting resistor can be reduced, depending on the MS ratio of the drive. For example perhaps 47R or 56R with a 12V supply and a few percent duty cycle. And also IR LEDs that may pass 10's of amps in microsecond bursts with only 1R to limit the current. LEDs in such situations do get warm and you'd need to read up on the tolerances to get the best out of them. For an experimental circuit it would be wise to keep a couple of 100 ohms in series -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads