Again the embedlets specification is ALL about this, ie how to plug wide-fan java enabled devices into backend J2EE databases. Example wide-fan scenario we are working on http://crusher.ssu.portsmouth.oh.us/~tkosan/java/embeddedjavascenario/ Again I encourage you join the email list just to listen in on the emerging spec if you have not already done so ;-) http://sourceforge.net/projects/embedlets/ Regards, James Caska www.muvium.com 'Java Bred for Embedded' > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Orbit Communications > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:03 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: PLC help > > > I appreciate your comments but we are not wanting to develop a PLC. We are > developing a specific product that will enhance our Wireless connectivity > products. It will incorporate many functions not available in a PLC. > > We are interested in the mechanics of how PLC logic is presented to the > controller in a typical PLC but have no intention of reinventing > an existing > product. > > Kind Regards > > David Huisman (CEO) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ORBIT COMMUNICATIONS - Wireless Solutions that Work > (Telemetry, Control, Monitoring, Security, HVAC ...) > > Website : http://www.orbitcoms.com > PO Box 4474 Lakehaven > NSW 2259, AUSTRALIA > Phone: 61-2-4393-3627 > Fax : 61-2-4393-3685 > Mobile: 61-413-715-986 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Micro Eng" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:07 AM > Subject: Re: PLC help > > > > First off...I've been doing PLC and ladder logic stuff for > about 20 years. > > Unless you have a buring desire to do this for fun, the product for a > small > > market might not be worth it, when you can buy all the pieces > for what it > > might cost to develop your own. For a specific use controller, which is > > what PIC's are great for, then it makes sense to build a board, etc but > > write the code in C or assembly since it is for target use. > > > > Now, for PLC applications, the only reason to write ladder logic is > legacy. > > In other words, thats the way its always been done, and the control > > engineers understand it (maybe some don't relize its a throwback to real > > ladder logic of using relays and timers) so why mess with it? > To get back > > to the subject at hand, there is a company called Direct Automation that > > sells the stuff pretty darn cheap, because its thier brand, albiet it it > > probably a japanese remark, but you aren't paying the price for > a Siemens > or > > AB unit. Of course, some outfits demand an AB unit, because of the name > > associated with it. I've developed using AB software, Rockwell, GE, > > Siemens, TI and a few other off brand things, and they are all about the > > same. > > > > Just my .02 worth > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads