Those who can't swim, of course :-) I'm 43 and a beginner with PIC's. Note, that I do *not* think that a "beginners-topic" is a good idea, thought.. Jan-Erik. Wagner Lipnharski wrote : >What kind of teenager needs swimming lessons in "beginners group"? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads