Again and again: start from a know working example. There are blink-a-led breadboard circuits, photographs and programs on www.voti.nl/wisp628 . When you get that working it is time to take the next step. That's what I do, which is why it's so odd. I have something in the code to write the EEP for diagnostic purposes at every stage, and it works fine. I just get no voltage on the pins at all. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.