Amen! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Tweed" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [EE]: Powering PIC from RF (Radio waves!) > "Sean H. Breheny" wrote: > > At 01:48 AM 1/25/2003 +1100, Roman wrote: > > > Olin Lathrop wrote: > > > > Nonetheless if the power company floods your property with strong E and B > > > > fields, it seems a bit strange that you shouldn't be allowed to harness > > > > those fields. > > > > > > I'm on the power company's side here. He has made an > > > air cored transformer, and any competent EE witness in > > > court would back up the theory that this is the same > > > transformer principle used by EVERY transformer between > > > the power company and it's customers to deliver power > > > from those transmission lines to each customer. > > > > > > The fact that his home made transformer looked funny > > > won't cut it. If he had made ANY type of AC transformer > > > which directly drained power from the power company's > > > equipment he is stealing their joules plain and simple. > > > It could be demonstrated that joules he gained were > > > lost from their system. > > > > As much as I agree with you that it is a transformer and that it will cause > > a noticeable drain from the power line, I'm not sure I'm on the power > > company's side. In essence, if you go along with what you say, then you are > > saying that having a power line going near your property restricts your > > right to build what you want on your property. So, for example, if I have a > > 200 meter long field which does NOT go by a power line, I am completely > > free to build a long metal wire structure (fence, antenna, whatever) but if > > the power company decides to put a power line nearby, I no longer have that > > right? > > > > If it were dangerous (i.e., if my metal structure caused overheating of the > > power line) or if it made the power distribution economically infeasible > > (i.e., drew huge amounts of power from the power line), then I think it > > would be clear-cut. However, if it makes very little economic difference to > > the power company and causes no danger, I think it makes sense to just say > > that everyone has the right to put up what they want on their property. > > I'm with Olin and Sean. By choosing open-wire lines for transmission, the > power company has decided to accept a certain amount of energy loss to the > environment. It's just economics -- shielding the lines would cost more > than the value of the energy recovered. > > If my body and property are inundated with these fields, I see no valid > argument that I shouldn't be able to make use of them. I use the same > argument with regard to the microwaves that are coursing through my body > from satellites (including pay-TV) and wireless communication towers. > > I do, however, accept restrictions on reselling that energy (or data) to > others. > > -- Dave Tweed > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.