Jonathan Johnson wrote: Everybody has to work with @ssholes at some time in theyre life but you just deal with it, get some goddamn excercise or something (sex is great for depression, unless you get nagged when your not having it ;-) Is your boss costing you money by making his? I dont think so, unless its you he's pestering for the rent. No, but it's great disturbance. Look, i expect him to at least be slightly concern of what i am doing, what i should be doing and to screw me when the schedule is overdue. Perhaps you could try to work with someone sitting just beside you and shouting/banging on the phone for late rental and chit chatting with his tuition customers. Is it your business what your boss does with his time? do YOU pay his salary? NO, your not even paying for your own salary because your too busy paying attention to what everybody else is doing with theyre time instead of looking after your own So someone else is designing a similar product to you? GET WITH THE PROGRAM... so are 3000 other engineers the world over, but them doing it while you mope around the office and whining to us doesnt feed your children, does it? So some of your workmates think you arent capable of getting your shit together long enough to finish your design? SO DO YOU! thats why they are taking it upon themselves to design a product your company can sell!..... so the company doesnt go broke and everybody be out They did NOT design the product so that the company can sell. They design the product so that THEY can sell it themselves privately. Nobody, is doing anything for the company right now and for the past 1 year. Everyone is waiting for the management to say the final word, Close Down. of work waiting for someone to stop feeling sorry for themselves like you are. If your not finding your job easy, work harder, it aint meant to be bloody easy, thats why its called work. If you still find it hard to do, then go be a cleaner, that doesnt entail a great deal of thought....mop left...mop right....mop left.....mop right, see simple heh? I need not convince you that i am a hard worker. I know i am. Just that I am very demotivated with all the happenings. Perhaps i have a weak mind, perhaps i wanted very much to succeed as a team. Perhaps i am just too human. Should you add that extra diode? add the little bugger and see if anything smokes! its only silicon and a bit of carcinogenic plastic fumes, it wont kill anyone.....immediately..... the quickest way for a 'rookie' to learn it to blow the crap out of a few parts, or themselves, whichever they learn from first ,disputing it with yourself wont help you, you can will I wont I will I wont I all year long and get nowhere, whereas blow up 13 cents worth of diode and WOW you just found out not to add it.( take note, I should hope by this stage you know what effect a diode will have on the circuit!) Worried your desing is going to kill someone? thats why we test things thouroughly before we sell them and design them with safety in mind when its an issue. Ever heard of redundant systems? If all thats too hard then design something that doesnt involve peoples lives......build a better mouse trap :-) I was just putting that diode as an example. Sometimes certain design aspect need some decision and i wanted some feedback. But none are forth coming, the decision is mine and the responsibility is mine too. And they do criticize badly. Last of all.....god wont f#%king help you unless you help yourself......pull your self together and stop trying to depress the few thousand people that just had to read that load of crap. I have nothing to say about that, but i feel guilty that my letter has caused you to use the word god so many times and in such a bad way. The fault is mine. I am not sure what i am expecting by putting this on the piclist. But i do make sure that I put the OT tag correctly, and double check on the piclist for what it means by OT. ( no religious, hate, political ) I love the List and has been with it for a few years ( since students day). You have a nice day too Jonathan. Have a nice day :-) Jonathan P.S I avoided mentioning the web site I know everybody is thinking of when you read this crap...well I was anyway ;-), but Mr C Darwin we thank you for your site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lousy Engineer" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [OT]:Sorry for the Rant > I hope by the time this letter is read by those intended, I would have left > CBE long ago and ready to begin life anew. I have been rotting from the day > I enter this company and continue rotting till the very last day. I hope the > fears, the mental obstacles and the failures never followed me to my new > job. I may not have a new job, perhaps, I resign for the sake of stopping > further rotting and get a grip on myself. Why not? A menial and labourful > job is much more meaningful. > > I saw K, started to draw a new PCB for a new Immobilizer. And I am > sad. Why? Why can't mine be used? Why were there no discussion? Where were > my fault? I simply don't understand. No one wants to help me to come out > with the Immobilizer. No one wants to get involved. Everyone is doing their > own things and I mean very OWN things that served OWN interest. There's no > spirit of cooperation, no spirit of discussion. > > I have my own fault and failure, I will have to admit. For more than 6 > months, I have been 'designing' Immobilizer II. What took me so long? And > the end product is imcomplete up till now. I analyse for quite some time and > identify the main culprit. This culprit is inside my very own mind. I wanted > to do things perfect but lack the experience. I am helpless most of the time > and the prospect that the product will be installed to a car frightened me > so much. The possibility that people lives will be lost and the > responsibility will be borne by me Alone is very depressing. Constantly > during the development process, I received no help, or vague help from > others. The self prepared schedule was not followed. There are numerous > times that I just stop doing anything, just because i am unsure of myself, > unsure of the decision made, afraid of the brushing off by K and unsure of > the next step. I am constantly struggling inside, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEP??? > WHAT SHOULD I DO AFTER THIS? AM I SPENDING TOO MUCH UNNECCESARY TIME FOR > THIS STAGE???? > No advice is available for me, no one is there to make sure i keep to my > schedule, no one is concern at all if the Immobilizer is completed in time > or not. As for myself, I sink into depression quite often, and instead of > moving on, I stop and surf and read everything under the NET, news, stories, > health product. I give myself excuses, I procrastinate. I started to hate > everyone in the office, I hate P for his attitude of constantly protecting > himself, of not being open, I hate K for constantly doing private project > and discussing it openly with P, all these while I am struggling to decide > whether to add another diode to the board!!! I hate them because they are > the very people that are capable to helping and making a difference but did > not. Needless to say, my R&D manager, has never been concern with the whole > company. All he does is making calls to numerous people and students, some > to argue over late rental payments ( i am wondering how many houses he > owns ) and some to arrange for tuition time. His time is preoccupied in > increasing his personal wealth, and making sure that every cents that goes > out of his pocket is worth the value. He never bothers on what we are doing > and in fact he know NUTs about electronic. He protocopy his tuition workbook > while we had our lunch, ( he eats gardenia for lunch ) and duplicates lots > of pirated VCD borrowed from frens. ( just to save that few dollar and fyi, > it cost just USD1.50 for the latest block buster ). He even took the trouble > to protocopy the cd cover and cut it nicely... > > Personally, I feel very sour about all these, I feel underutilised and I > feel guilty accepting the salary for nothing done. I know i am not lazy and > I know i am capable of doing things. I know, my limit is more than this. I > know....i just need some help, some guidance and assurance, after all, i > am still a rookie engineer, i have my own mental obstacles, i have my own > self doubt. 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