I have now moved my little 4 meter wire (antenna) a little up the wall and am actually getting 180mV DC over a resostor that is supposed to simulate my PIC. The resistor is 238 kOhm and would equal a PIC using 15 uA at 3 volts, running at 32 kHz. (Approx specs for 16F62x using internal clock.) So, I am actually pulling down 98 nW and need about 45 uW so roughly 460 times as much :-) I was wondering if I would gain alot if i made a tuned antenna to a specific frequency as it might remove cancelation of waves in the antenna. I'm really gunning for the "Perpetuum Mobile" prize hehe... It's not really that wonderful, but it would not require any other fuel... If anyone has any experience or any more info on how to do this I'd be very happy. Need all the help I can get on this one! KreAture KreAture -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads