The programmer will do 628's as well. I haven't tried 87*, but I would have thought that so long as they are not 'A' parts the programmer should program them. Colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 23/01/2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads