Are you running the PCW version that's $350? Hmm, as a student I don't have that kind of budget, are there any windows based IDE with C compiler in a lower price range? Thanks Aaron -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads