This is not a direct response to your query, but a suggestion anyway; you could bring down the number of pins required for the connector, and perhaps save 2 pins on the CPU as well. The pins for programming (clock and data) dont have to be dedicated for the purpose; during actual operation of the PIC, they could perfectly well be serving some other purpose. For example, I have designed a pump controller with a serial output to be connected to the PC; I am using RB6 and RB7 (bit banged) to achieve this. Therefore, the same connector can be used to do ICSP as well. Regards, Anand Dhuru ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Koffman" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [EE]: ICSP connectors for SMT? > I'm on the verge of designing my first SMT board, but I've hit a > problem. I really don't want to use big ugly 12 pin IDC headers for my > ICSP connections. Seems like they are somewhat large compared to the > rest of the components. Is there a smaller, more compact, and visually > appealing solution anyone else is using? I'd like it to have 12 > connectors, and the plug to insert when running the code (not > programming the chip) shouldn't be too huge. > > Any ideas? > > Josh > -- > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete > fools. > -Douglas Adams > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body