I'm on the verge of designing my first SMT board, but I've hit a problem. I really don't want to use big ugly 12 pin IDC headers for my ICSP connections. Seems like they are somewhat large compared to the rest of the components. Is there a smaller, more compact, and visually appealing solution anyone else is using? I'd like it to have 12 connectors, and the plug to insert when running the code (not programming the chip) shouldn't be too huge. Any ideas? Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.