alright Jinx, what do you think of this? I now have a on off switch between the wall transformer +V and the input to the 7805 and I have a momentary (NO) switch between Vdd and Vss, to be pressed when the main switch is off, when things are acting strange, to get a complete reset. And, I've asked this before, but I've forgotten now, sorry but I have a small capacitor between the 7805 +5vdc output and ground, is this all that is required or a good idea OR what do you recommend here, the capacitors, filter out noise correct? Where else do you need to do this? thanks, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinx" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [pic] : mclr versus cycling the power > > perhaps he uses a double throw switch, which both disconnects > > the 7805 from the PIC's Vdd lines and also shorts the PIC's Vdd > > lines > > That's the best way to ensure a power-down reset. Circuits can > behave oddly (don't I know it !!) if Vdd doesn't go low enough > when the power switch is turned off before power is re-applied. > It's recommended in the electrical specs that Vdd reaches Vss > before power-up, and shorting the Vdd and Vss pins with a switch > as or after the power supply is disconnected pretty much guarantees > that > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.