> if so, what is the difference between doing this and > recycling the power? or > is a reset exactly the same as powering off then on? Power cycling is the more thorough reset. Some components (LCDs for instance) don't even have a real (external) reset pin. I almost always use a 7805 regulator and, I often use a switch that shorts the 5 Volt as reset. For programming some newer PICs require MCLR rise to Vpp *before* +5 is applied. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.