> Because I ordered the WARP-13A I don't know what kind of restrictions > I'll have. Warp-13 is likely to program any chip you will use. I'am not sure whether it is easy to use in-circuit, which is the most usefull mode during development and debugging. > But I've heard that the c language has a lot of overhead, and doesn't > make things much clearer. But asm has a lot of programmer-time overhead! > I'm also curious about JAL, Just try it. > and how/what that is, as well as what a boot loader is. read "start with pics" at http://www.voti.nl/swp Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.