> Olin was right, as usually, stating that 18FXXXX would > be a better choice for beginner. I'm not sure I'm convinced. The 18F's might be easier overall to learn on, but I'm not sure you'll learn PIC stuff on them, so you may be giving up on a lot of the freely available "stuff" on the web (existing projects, etc.) If you're not specifically trying to learn about PICs, you might be better off with an atmel AVR, flash 8051, or flash motorola something... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics