> Vpp with target connected is 14.06v, without is 14.12 That is OK, but something else is wrong (or worse: marginal). Sorry, without a scope on your hardware (that I can see for myself) I am out of suggestions. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics