> Great, > Where can other people buy these pens? Good question... Thus far I have only found this pen via Staedtler's distributor in Denmark. They was so kind as to send me a sample. I haven't found any that will sell to other than retailers. (I contacted Staedtler via work, and we might register as a retailer with them... If we do, I'll have a source of theese penns and might start peddling them as a personal project.) As long as one sends 2 penns or similar as samples or something, one should be able to skip customs right ? (Ohh, and yes... I hate customs!) KreAture > ~Brad > > > I have now tested the pens I got from Staedtler and compared them to > the > > bunch I already had. > > There is no comparison between them! > > > > The pen is a Staedtler Permanent Lumocolor 319 F-9 and is approx 0.4mm > > thick. > > There is supposed to exist a super fine version that's thinner. > > > > I tested this one with both horror schenarios I could think of. > Strong, hot > > acid and weak hot acid. I let it over-etch about 15 minutes in a > medium > > heated solution and it didn't even start to pit! It gave good > coverage when > > used as fill and is not too fast drying so one can criss-cross without > > tearing previous strokes. > > Worst torture test must have been the 40 minutes slow etch in a 45 > deg C > > solution. All my other penns failed miserably and pitted worse than > a 14 > > year old chockolate fanatic. The Lumocolor was crisp and clear. > > > > I'm working on a writeup with pictures so everyone interested can see > the > > difference. I've requested prices and will compare those with the > other > > penns I have tested as well. > > > > Finally, my search is over... I am so happy for following the lead > left > > here a whiler ago about Lumocolor. The problem was that the pen > > reccommended was out of production, but the ones behind the scenes at > > Staedtler assured me that this one was an improvement. > > > > Now, all I need to do is add a guide-ring around it to allow my > plotter to > > grasp it. It turns out to be 9.5mm thick (+/- 0.1) and that is > perfect for > > my plotter as it's the same as the original penns! In adition the > pen is > > fairly light so it won't jiggle too much. > > > > For those of you who are wondering: > > Most plotters need a guide-ring on the penns to insure correct grasp > each > > time. To add this I simply make a copper ting out of the core of a PR > > cable. I make the ring a tad too small so it will hug the pen > slightly and > > position it. Then I heat the ring up a bit with a soldering iron and > let it > > melt slightly into the pen, trying to make it even all around. Now > the > > plotter can grab the pen correctly every time as long as I didn't > screw up > > the distance from the point of the pen to the ring. This makes it > very > > practical, and by adding a couple of penns with different widths > we're in > > buisiness. > > > > KreAture > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > > > :) > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.