Thanks for the pics Jinx! I have a Dremel MiniMite (miniture battery powered Dremel) that I might try. Would also be easier as I wouldn't have to go to the workshop to drill boards. I have been using .024" bits for half my holes (roughly .6mm) and .040" for the others (roughly 1mm). I agree it's likely press as I seem to snap both sizes with equal ease. I think I might be able to chuck up the smaller shanked drills in the Dremel too. I'll have to give that a try. Thanks! Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Jinx wrote: > I prefer to use a hand drill. It's a 12V 15,000rpm PCB drill, bottom > picture http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0makepcb.html > > A stand or drill press doesn't give me enough feedback about bit > pressure on the board, to avoid the very problem you're having. On > the very rare occassion I do break a bit it's not whilst drilling (eg > rolls off the bench - scream, curse, quick, blame someone). The bits > I buy (from RS) fit into a 0.7 - 1.00mm collett. I have some 0.6mm > with 1/8" shanks that the local PCB mftr sold me for a couple of $$ > and they have their own collett, but I don't use those very often, it's > mostly 0.8mm and up > > To use small bits in the drill press (which doesn't close below about > 2mm) I have an old cordless drill chuck with a bolt shaft where the > gearbox used to attach and put that in the drill press chuck. Not for > anything less than 1.5mm bits though. I've (temporarily) added a > couple of drill pictures to the PCB page -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics