If you want quick and nasty, use diodes. V drop over then 0.6V. Two of them in series will give you 4.8V supply. Still within specs of the latest PICs. -- Quentin qsc@iptech.co.za www.iptech.co.za -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics