Well I thought we might be able to produce a PIC based alcohol, wine grading sensor. Now should we use an F84 or an F84a? :) colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 04/01/2003 I have always been a few Dendrites short of an Axon and believe me it shows. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.