word from the wise....label EVERYTHING as you bring it back to your demarc point. I like the panduit labels, you can write or print and they wrap around the label with a clear coating. I still have two CAT5E runs that I can't quite identify.... _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics