Roman Black wrote: > If I own a perfectly functional 10 year old hammer > why the f%^$ should I be forced to upgrade (ie pay > money) to buy the latest hammer every 2 years just > so microsoft can get constantly richer at my expense? Hi Roman, first, Happy New Year, second, are you using a granite sharpen hammer made by some nedherthal figure 20 thousand years ago, or a model that suffered hundreds of updates, including the nail extraction head unit with rubber handle and such? The point is a hammer really does not need any improvements, something that even a computer and its software will not need either in the year 3400, I guess, right? I am afraid that I saw last week at Home Depot a new hammer using polycarbonate and porous uretane at the handle, it does not transfer the hammering shock to your hand and arm, avoiding damages to the muscles. If you are using a regular wood handle hammer, you need to upgrade to the new model... see? :) I don't like William Gates either, but we need to understand and clap its marketing capacity to being able to sell what he sells and in the speed he sells, not even talking about the way he uses to convince even you to upgrade your system every 2 years. Lotus 123 was much better than Excell and even so he found a way to take the first out of the market, WordPerfect was much better than Word (for the time) and the same happened. Even with more than 50% of piracy he was always able to keep going and be rich. Its only frustration was never being able to get CorelDraw down, since he was never able to produce something technical as an EDA software. This, I guess, was always pointed by his lawyers as what could bring MS down. Nobody sues MS because he needed to restart the letter again at the crashed Word, but a multi-million circuit board design crashing, requiring 10 days of extra work, could generate a nice and fat law suit. He simply doesn't want that, because he knows his company and what it produces. If your new car breaks down, the manufacturer doesn't say you need to buy the next year version that will have all the issues fixed, right? they have responsibility about it. Recently bouth 2 E-Machines, software fully installed. Win-XP and all. Word keeps messing around with the docs names, it is not rare open a file, "saving-as" as a NEW name, at the end, when you "save" the file, it simply writes over the previous name... funny? nice job? It happens often, in both machines we bought, to avoid problems, whenever we want to change a letter or something, we "save-as" and MUST verify if the file under edit was really changed name... Thanks Bill - perhaps you could spend 100k/year more to pay a some "professional user" to test your softwares before you release it. Wagner -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads