The recent discussions of touch switches/etc, combined with local storms and power failures make me wonder: Can a battery-powered device with no AC line connection sense a power failure by noticing the LACK of any 60Hz pickup? Given sufficient care in battery life preservation, that would make possible "stick up" emergency lighting that didn't need to be connected to anything, which would be quite a neat idea, IMHO... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu