Hi Byron,

This sounds like a really good approach for my application.  Would you
suggest your THVP over your TLVP?  If so, why?  Is there the cable
length issue with the THVP?

Also, I downloaded David Tait's FPP software per your recommendation on
your website.  If I select 'TLVP' in the setup will those settings still
be compatible with your THVP (namely the inverted MCLR)?

Thanks,
Adam Smith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: adam-request@viratech.com [mailto:adam-request@viratech.com] On
> Behalf Of Byron A Jeff
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:30 AM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: Building the free ICD
>
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002 at 04:03:29PM -0600, Adam Smith wrote:
> > I just constructed the El Cheapo (PCB version) and it doesn't seem
to
> > work on either of my PCs (apparently there's a compatibility problem
> > with some I/Os on various motherboards).
> >
> > Is there anyone in the DFW area (preferably NE Dallas around
Garland)
> > that would be so kind as to allow me to program my 16F876 using
their
> > programmer?
>
> If you have another 1/2 day might I suggest building the high voltage
> version
> of my Trivial programmer:
>
> http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys/proghvp.html
>
> As usual it uses parts that can found in virtually any Radio Shack
(and
> since
> Tandy is in DFW you should have any problems ;-)
>
> Just remember to invert the MCLR pin in your software. As always I
> recommend
> putting your programming software in test mode and test the polarity
and
> voltage of your connections.
>
> The Trivial programmer is specifically designed for this application.
I
> use it
> to dump Wouter van OOijen's WLoader bootloader into 16F877 parts. It's
> cheap,
> low parts count, with readily available parts. Ideal for the
application
> you
> need.
>
> BAJ
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Adam Smith
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: adam-request@viratech.com [mailto:adam-request@viratech.com]
On
> > > Behalf Of Bob Ammerman
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:58 AM
> > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Building the free ICD
> > >
> > > You will need another programmer to program the F876 in the ICD.
(or a
> > > helpful PICLISTER, I have F876's in stock and I'd be glad to burn
one
> > for
> > > you at $15.00 including the chip and ground postage in North
America.)
> > >
> > > The ICD2 is a very nice package. Supports serial (MPLAB 5.x or
6.x) or
> > USB
> > > (MPLAB 6.x only). Currently only works with a limited number of
chips.
> > In
> > > the future is supposed to be able to:
> > >
> > > - program most ICSP PICS,
> > > - ICD most PICs that support it
> > > - support the dsPIC30 series
> > >
> > > Bob Ammerman
> > > RAm Systems
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Smith" <adam@VIRATECH.COM>
> > > To: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:25 PM
> > > Subject: [PIC]: Building the free ICD
> > >
> > >
> > > > Happy Holidays everyone!
> > > >
> > > > I'm excited about putting together an ICD for my projects, and
have
> > been
> > > > working on it since two days ago.  I've been bread boarding it
for
> > now,
> > > > and on my second try I think I have it put together.  (The first
one
> > was
> > > > a mess:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.viratech.com/adam/tempdir/before.jpg
> > > >
> > > > and the second one turned out much better:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.viratech.com/adam/tempdir/after.jpg )
> > > >
> > > > My question is this: can I program the 16F876 with the ICD, or
will
> > I
> > > > have to find another programmer to use to make this?  ETN 21
> > mentions
> > > > programming this flash chip with the ICD but my suspicion is
that
> > you
> > > > have to do it with the original PIC running the show.  Is that
> > correct?
> > > >
> > > > Also, does anyone know anything about ICD 2?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Adam Smith
> > > >
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