> We had a first semester freshman course at RPI called "Elementary > Engineering". Ah yes, I remember it well. As well as F-Test (thursday morning 8AM iirc). I seem to remember being in the Elementary Engineering class when one of the bridges over the Hudson collapsed. The prof, without blinking an eye, just told us... "That is _not_ the way to design a bridge". Bob Ammerman RAm Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.