The point was that 97% capacity was cutting it too close. We were hired to solve a problem. When something failed during a performance, waving a bunch of calculations in their face showing it shouldn't have happend wasn't going to help. A few more dollars for a larger cable is nothing compared to the cost of having to abort a performance in the middle. I'm not convinced. Sure, he has a point. But on the other hand, what data were you given to indicate that capacity might exceed that planned for, or that the cable might be out-of-spec, or on failure statistics and probabilities? All other things being equal, a cable operated at "97% of capacity" shouldn't fail, so it should be fine. Of course, operating the cable at 110% of capacity doesn't result in immediate failure anyway, just a slightly warmer than expected cable. And 20g cable is probably more expensive than 18g cable, because 18g is one of those "stdardard" values. BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics