I have used ISCP in my PIC18F458I-PT with PicStartPlus successfully. I had a problem when I try use it with one 1mf capacitor between VDD and VSS. Your microcontroller must be lonely in the programming. Unplag VDD, VSS, RB7, RB6 and MCLR of you board. I'm using 40 cm wire. I hope you get solve you problem. Sergio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wouter van Ooijen" To: Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICSP Problem - WARP13a and 18f252 > You might try to ICSP with the crystal removed, or the osc otherwise > stopped. If that works the programmer/cable/board does not create a > /MCLR rise time that is quick enough. BTW what circuitry do you have on > /MCLR, RB6, RB7, RB5? > > Wouter van Ooijen > > -- ------------------------------------------- > Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl > consultancy, development, PICmicro products > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.