> I would like to find that something in my software could be altered > to get these to work Some OKI & NEC controllers are HD44780-compatible but have minor timing differences. Not generally affecting init though. It may be an odd-ball controller. Are these OEM rather than retail ? Unless it's an LCD I've used before I never expect an immediate result. Usually get it, but never expect it. I know just how you feel... one lousy character would make you very happy eh ? -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body