At 08:38 PM 12/9/02 +0200, you wrote: >This is a metric country. I use 1mm or 0.8mm drills. 1mm I can buy at any >DIY shop, 0.8 is $pecial order. Try the kind of supplier that feeds machine shops and such like. I use KBC tools, which has HSS 0.80mm drills for about 45 cents US ea. (the smallest sizes, 0.35mm and 0.30mm cost a lot more). M.A. Ford solid carbide PCB drills with standard 0.125" shank for collets are more, about $2.50 US. But two (because you might break one rather than wear it out) of those costs about the same as an envelope of 10 of the HSS bits. I got a nice assortment of 50 solid carbide drills and mill bits and other things (mostly smaller than 1mm) from another supplier for about $15, with color-coded plastic collars and a storage box. Unfortunately, the HSS small drills are usually only jobbers length below about 1mm (or 3/64), rather than the preferable (IMHO) stubby screw machine length. >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics