I popped over to Tony's site and opened the Fobbit page, at the bottom of the page the visitor counter was complaining "Error Getting Date : Move Counter" It just appealed to my wacky (baccy?) sense of humour. Of course with out seeing it what I said maid no sense at all - but then I'm often told that when I'm serious . :) Colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 03/12/2002 Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu