Thanks for the recommendations everyone. It looks like I'll take the RTD route as they are fairly linear, cheap, fast reponse time ( a couple of seconds for 90% of temp), and they are easy to program for, only a little bit of arithetic. I only need a temp range of about -40 to 100 C so it will be fine for me, however, if i extend this project for higher temps, then it looks like i might go with the Thermopile or possibly a thermistor ( eek)/thermocouple. Thanks -Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wagner Lipnharski" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [OT]: Temperature Sensors? Ray Gallant wrote: > I would recommend a 100R or 1K platinum RTD. About $3.50 CDN. You > can get free samples on your own. Spend your money on your front end > and Vref accuracy. Use a table derived from the available formulas > for cold and warmer temperatures. If you go that route check out > DIN- EN60751 class-x and other standards. The drift on some of these > RTDs are minimum and if your circuit is very stable, you won't need > to calibrate, just a verification is required. You may need a DC > offset due to the temperature range. I use RTDs from Heraeus with > great results. You can also design a programmable home-grown > temperature chamber (-30 to +30 deg C) for about 100 - $150 with a > camper's cooler, darlington, relay & pic. Regards, {slewrate} The only problem with RTDs and NTCs is its top temperature. The RTD Panasonic ERTD2FHL103S (Digikey $1.06) goes from -30 up to +1250C only!!! The NTC Thermometrics Global AL03006-5818-97-G1 (Digikey $2.66) goes from -50 to +2040C (+4000F) only. If you need to cook SMD, it needs to go at least to 4500F, obviously should operate at least up to 20% more, or, around 5300F. A THERMOPILE is a nice non-contact sensor, that can measure the temperature away of it. The MLX90247B (Digikey $13) in TO39 4 leads, generates 40uV/K and it incorporates a 26 kohms PTC in the same die, so you can compensate ambient temperature. Even that operating temperatures should be from -40 to +1500C, this is the thermopile temperature, not the reading non contact temperature, even that I could not find its reading temp range. http://www.melexis.com website can give you more details about this chip. They also have modules with complete solutions, digital or analog output, but be aware of their $65 prices. VV46NER -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu