Sorry Russell, I looked up my bookmarks it was Bull's impulse engine patent, not Brown's. Here are a couple of links, see Bull's patent and some tests etc on this page; JLN Labs - Inertial Propulsion Engine ... systems which are automatically propelled by inertia forces" FR2651279 by ... test run 1; The TIE pendulum test run ... The Inertial Drive Engine Aircraft the IDEA V3.0 ... http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/IPEmain.htm (also see the "linear force machine" on this page, very interesting... And another interesting page; ... ITEM #AGN-104: THE BEST INERTIA ENGINE PATENTS & DATA. ... overview of the types of inertia engines, methods ... models suspended as a free pendulum with oscilloscope ... http://www.padrak.com/agn/AGN4SALE.html :o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics