How accurate does your gadget need the oscillator to be? Could you use a ceramic resonator with the caps already inside in the same holes as the crystal is in now? They are available through a number of vendors and are inexpensive even in low quantities, as long as your application can handle the (slightly) lower accuracy. On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 15:33, Edson Brusque (PICList) wrote: > Hello, > > I'm building a little gadget using a PCB I've made some time ago. > This PCB was made for a PIC16F628 using it's internal 4MHz oscillator, > and the two XTAL pins are connected to two side-by-side LEDs on the PCB. > > Now, this gadget needs to run at 20MHz, so I'm soldering the XTAL > pins at those PCB holes made for the two LEDs. The thing is working very > well, but I don't have where to place the two (15-33pF) XTAL capacitors > on this PCB. > > My question is: Can I just leave out those caps? I know the caps are > needed for giving the oscillator better stability, but if this little > gadget are working ok without the caps, will it do any harm? Like > someday this gadget wouldn't startup, or will it suddenly stop... > > Best regards, > > Brusque > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > -- Nate Duehr, WY0X (AIM: BigNateCO) nate@natetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads