At 08:33 PM 11/28/02 -0200, you wrote: > My question is: Can I just leave out those caps? I know the caps are >needed for giving the oscillator better stability, but if this little >gadget are working ok without the caps, will it do any harm? Like >someday this gadget wouldn't startup, or will it suddenly stop... I wouldn't. Why not just solder a couple of 0805 (or smaller if your eyes are good) caps on the bottom of the board and use a whisp of magnet wire to connect the common point to ground. If you do it carefully it will be almost as good as if the PCB was designed for it. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads