Bob Ammerman wrote: > Note: Don't expect too much accuracy out of your > run-of-the-mill crystal based oscillator. You will get > significant drift over time, temperature, and I believe > supply voltage. "...and I believe supply voltage" - Bob, two weeks ago I've received few PIC16F871 from local Microchip folks (www.microchip.com.ua) . Also received crystals from them for these PICs. Crystals were 20 MHz without any additional information. If I were Olin, I'd rather just stick them to these PICs. :-) Look at his posting: "Re: [PIC]: Serial resistor for the oscillator of a PIC16F876" on 2002-07-09 : > > The point is that I need to know some suitable value > > for the serial RESISTOR > I always use 0Ohms. Where did you get the idea from > to put a resistor there anyway? I don't recall ever seeing > a resistor in any Microchip documentation. But I asked local Microchip folks about crystals' parameters. They sent me datasheet from witch I've found out that crystals were Jauch Quartz HC49/U4H SS4 0.1 mW max drive level! From Microchip AN826 Crystal Oscillator Basics: Power dissipation of the crystal can be computed by P = E^2 / R1 where E is rms voltage across the crystal. R1 is known to be about max 100 Ohm at 20 Mhz. So aprox max P would be 2v^2 / 2 / 100 Ohm = 20 mW. Too much for 0.1 mW max drive level crystal. Of course, "You will get significant drift over time..." :-) ........................... Mike. Correct me if I'm wrong, please. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu