> MS Visio can draw schematics, I tried. I hope, there > are parts libraries somewhere on the Net for Visio. Any drawing package can be used to lay out a PCB. It's not worse than the old "black tape on clear film" techniques that used to keep engineers with a lot of experience employed doing little more than that... It's not much better, either... There's enough freeware out there these days that you don't NEED to do that anymore. And it's pretty good, too. (Thus all the traffic about Eagle...) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu