Hiya Myke, good to hear from you again. I did manage to get the 12F675 erased with the YAP-2, by writing a VERY cheesy program on a 16F84 to do the trick -- only without saving OSCCAL and the BG bits, but for now I can keep track of them manually. Maybe I'll fix that later, or let me know if you have an upgrade! I'd hate to spend $200 on another programmer, especially since I love the prototype-area on the YAP-2! If anyone wants details on what I did to get the 12F675 erased, let me know. -Eric __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body