Don't forget that the 877 needs +5v on pins 11 AND 32 and Vss on 12 AND 31. Otherwise you've only powered half the chip. Colion -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 27/11/2002 Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body