Dom wrote... >My ex-wife was terrible, she had no patience with my tinkering. Stuff would >get mysteriously tidied away never to be seen again. Chips would look like >they'd been trodden on, tools would be used to open cans etc. My ex-wife was fine with my tinkering; she recognized the hobby served as "calesthenics" to keep my skills sharp for bringing home lots of bacon. But I know what you mean about the tools. One day I came home from work and she met me at the door in full rant mode: no-good, worthless piece-of-crap nailset tool just fell apart when she tried to sink some nail heads with it. What junk! And to prove her point, she handed me the remains of the offending instrument: my poor little OK hobby wirewrap tool! DD -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.