> it doesn't help when your trying to catch up on your list reading;-) No, but I've got a couple of jobs that have lingered a bit longer than they should have, and I can just about fool myself into thinking it's last week again. Now, if only I could convince the customers too....... Spew some more out Dale, I quite liked July last year if you're taking requests. Oh happy days, happy days -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.