Just curious if anyone had ever used Microchip for samples as I've never seen it mentioned. I talked to Microchip last week and today had 628's and 509's show up including a single JW (which was the most surprising) The JW was listed on Microchips customs slip as selling for 46 cents US. Even with our exchange rate that doesn't convert to the $25 they are asking for one. Dave -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.