It looks to me like Text can be operated on with BOTH "mirror" and "Change Layer" This makes sense, but it's not terribly consistant with the other Eagle objects (in general, "objects" like parts can only be "mirrored", and graphics items like lines and traces, only work with "change layer." Add to this the "automatic" creating of mirrored text if you create it on the bottom layer, and it's a bit confusing.) BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads