At 04:53 PM 11/21/02 -0600, you wrote: >Yes it can, many people use it. I don't have a schematic I can share >though. Another chip to look at is the Maxim MAX485. Lower power >consumption I believe. And, this may just be semantics (and I'm sure >I'll get corrected if I'm wrong), but the PIC UART isn't RS232. It's >TTL. Once you add a convertor circuit, it then becomes RS232. CMOS (output) or TTL (input) levels, asychronous serial. To make it into RS-232 you need to invert the signals and shift the level to RS-232 levels. So, it's "almost" what we loosely call RS-232 but not quite. If you want to just put a connector on the board hooked to the PIC for occasional RS-232 connections for setup or whatever, I think James N. has a MAX-232 type circuit in a dongle for a reasonable price. With the RS-485, you can certainly use the chips mentioned, but another port pin usually needs to be designated to control the driver enable for the typical half-duplex communication. Last I looked, the bipolar 75176 was cheaper than the CMOS alternatives, so unless power consumption is important you might want to look at it for that reason. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body