Another approach uses no sticker, no alarm, no "anti start switch", = nothing obvious. I had a truck that had a neutral safety switch and a clutch switch (the = result of changing from a 3 speed to a 4 speed. If it was started with = both clutch down and in neutral everything was normal. But if started in = neutral without pressing the clutch, or started in gear with the clutch = pressed, a circuit was activated which gradually began to reduce power = to the coil. Results it started ok, but before you could get out of the = parking lot it would be misfiring and backfiring to the point it became = undriveable. This made it appear not worth stealing. It was a fairly = simple circuit, the key was a high power "P"channel mosfet source to B+ = Drain to Coil+ Gate to a cap that was slowly charged through a resistor, = when the Gate was no longer below the Source the Drain was fully open, = but the cool part was while the mosfet was acting as a voltage = controlled resistor and had it misfiring. $.02 Lonnie - KF4HAZ - -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.