Florian, thank you very much. If realy works than this is the right answer. However my first look, shows there is no drill-aid.ulp in my Eagle 4.0 Can you help me, sending me this file ? I'll try also to the pointed location. Thanks again, Vasile On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Florian Voelzke wrote: > Hi, > > so if I understand you guys correct, you want something like a "drill > aid" for hand drilling? > > Solution 1: You can have a deep look in the ulp directory of eagle, > there is an user language programm named drill-aid.ulp. It places small > circles above any hole on an extra layer and reduces the "visible" hole > diameter. You just switch of the drill aid layer if you want to have it > made by a board house. (There are other interesting ulp programs, I > think there is one for changing drill diameters in already placed parts. > Also try the download/ulp section.) > > Solution 2 (the one I use): Print your PCB as postscript with the help > of the CAM processor. And then edit the postscript file. Postscript is a > sort of programming language including functions, just modify the "draw > a hole"-function! > > Search for: > > /h { % draw a hole > /d exch def > /y exch def > /x exch def > d 0 gt { > newpath > x EU y EU d 2 div EU 0 360 arc > currentgray dup > 1 exch sub setgray > fill > setgray > } if > } def > > "x EU y EU d 2 div EU 0 360 arc" is the interesting line, it draws an > arc. "d 2 div" is the calculation of the hole diameter, so just change > it to a constant value of your choice. Try something between 2000 and > 1000. Now all holes have the diameter you entered. > Convert the modified postscript file to whatever you need with ghostscript. > > Advantages: No changes to the board, no changes to the libraries. No > need to rewrite the library or to have two sets of libraries. > Disadvantage: A bit of handwork > > Before I discovered the second method, my homebrew boards looked, well, > unprofessional... > > Florian Voelzke > > > > Bob Ammerman wrote: > > Olin, > > > > For homebrew, people like to use a very small drill size. This just gives > > them an accurate center for hand drilling and is not related to the actual > > size required. > > > > Remember--the home brew folks are generally _not_ using plated thru holes. > > > > Bob Ammerman > > RAm Systems > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Olin Lathrop" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [EE]: eagle question ... > > > > > > > >>>It's the tools/DRC/restring specifications. There is a situation when > >>>changing the drill diameters in brd are very important, assuming you > >> > >>plan > >> > >>>production and first time you need to create a homebrew pcb and then > >>>production. This means you need two different libraries, because for > >>>homebrew board the drill diameter it's really small and used just for > >>>drill steerage but for production the drill must be the real one. > >> > >>I don't understand. Whether homebrew or not, the pins must still fit into > >>the holes. Also, if you are drilling the holes yourself, you can use any > >>drill bit you like. The DRD and DRL files wouldn't be any use unless > >>you've got your own NC drilling machine. > >> > >> > >>***************************************************************** > >>Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > >>(978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com > >> > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.