What about that nice new army truck just unveiled by the DAC corporation? It has mace spray, stun grenades, tyre puncturers the lot! Only 1 model in existence U$1M or if in production U$100K - modeled on James Bond DB2 gizmo's. Should Bin Ladle apply for one? colin -- cdb, bodgy1@optusnet.com.au on 20/11/2002 Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until they speak! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics