For all Wisp628/xwisp users: there is new firmware and a new xwisp (see the webpages). When used together you can specify 'port 115200' to let the PC-programmer communication run at 115k2, which speeds things up significantly. To upgrade the firmware you will need a 16F628, but afterwards you can recycle the old one (see FAQ on Wisp628 page). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics