>Not to mention the sensors on doors and trunk that can tell >if it's a key opening the car as opposed to something else. Oh you mean it is not a Peugeot 406 or a Volkswagen :)) There has been an expose here in the UK on the consumer rights program "Watchdog" of problems with these vehicles having an extremely large number of break-ins. On the Peugeot, it is possible to get into the boot (trunk for our stateside friends) by leaning on it somewhere, and then pushing the release. The impression I got is that pressure in the right place managed to push the mechanical lock to the unlock position, allowing the boot to be opened. On the Volkswagen, pulling on the door handle while fiddling with the lock somehow worked the central locking and wound down the windows, all in one action!! In one incident cited, the thief pulled up beside target vehicle, lent out window, fiddled locks lent through now open window on target vehicle, went through contents of glove box, got out of car, opened target boot, stole set of golf clubs, back in own vehicle and left scene, elapsed time 9 seconds, as checked on the security video. I have also heard a story about a businessman who managed to lock himself out of an expensive Mercedes. Standing by car pondering situation and along come a couple of kids. They offer to get into car for a tenner. Businessman reckons it cannot be done, but they are insistent. Finally he says they can have a tenner if they can get in without damaging the car. One kid grabs a reasonable size rock, slides under car and whacks electronics box underneath. Central locking suddenly leaps into life and unlocks doors. Apparently there is a G sensor that unlocks the doors in the event of an accident, and the electronics box containing it is mounted on the underneath of the car. :)) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics